<stephend> can't reproduce at will

<crowder> interesting; <video> tag works in tbird 3 nightlies, too, sort of
<crowder> you can't click on 'em
<crowder> but the first frame and a play button are there
<beltzner> that's ... interesting
<philor> eh, just enable JS in Tb, what's the worst that could happen?
<crowder> heh
<mrbkap> philor: If I do that, I go back to the USPS for my smtp server.
<mrbkap> (and POP)
<mrbkap> I don't think they support IMAP.

* jcranmer retracts point 3
< jcranmer> <PARSER ERROR>
< cesar> eeek, is that a space in your tag name?
< jcranmer> 4. `Math' should only be capitalized as a particular course name. The subject is `mathematics' or, more colloqually, `math'
<@Callek> cesar: SGML, tag is "PARSER" attribute "ERROR"
<@Callek> :-P
< jcranmer> 5. I do believe the [sic] is supposed to be *inside* the quotation
< cesar> that attribute needs a value
< jcranmer> cesar: this ain't XML
< jcranmer> or SGML
< jcranmer> it's plain old JCERL
<@Callek> cesar: SGML doesn't necessarily need a value
< jcranmer> jcranmer's error representation language
< jcranmer> the rules for this language are simple:
<@Callek> cesar: see HTML4 _syntax_ :-P (which is a subset of SGML syntax)
< jcranmer> 1. All rules are capriciously decided on the spur of the moment by whatever I say.
 * cesar cringes
< jcranmer> 1a. In particular, a conforming document MAY no longer be conforming at a given point in the future, even if neither this specification nor the representation of the document changes
< cesar> Callek: I'll take your word for it ;)
<@Callek> jcranmer: 2. Copious amounts of booze can change the rules at any point; including but not limited to, grammar faults, reedisms, and sudden keybangings.
< jcranmer> Implementations MUST, therefore, be prepared to expect and recognize various semi-standardized formatting of error messages, including those as follows:
< jcranmer> i.
< jcranmer> ii.
< jcranmer> iii.
< jcranmer> iv.
< jcranmer> v.
< jcranmer> こんにちわ.
<@Callek> jcranmer: egads man, you've gone above and beyond the time-wasting stage now... sleep like the rest of the world

<gavin> jasampler: are you going to change it?
<jasampler> gavin, no, I entered here to tell you, I don't want an account in mozilla devcenter
<gavin> aw, too bad :)
<gavin> only takes a minute to sign up, and it's free!
<biesi> haha
<jasampler> gavin, I know, thank you
<biesi> "you don't even have to pay to write our documentation"?

<zach> the world needs peoplewhothinkbeforetheygetangry.slashdot.org
<philor> and the nice thing is, you could run it off that old 486 in the back corner of the garage
<zach> philor: my grandmother could serve its pages by UPS and not break a sweat

* mconnor wasted a lot of time fighting xorg.conf in a terminal yesterday
<bz> mconnor: sounds like a bad B movie
<bz> mconnor: duking it out with xorg.conf in a gunfight in an airport terminal
<bz> mconnor: with the TSA folks getting in the way and getting slain in droves
<mconnor> except that in the movies, the good guy wins

<Mnyromyr> we've bugs on this ;-)
<timeless> is anyone planning on fixing it?
<Mnyromyr> well, planning isn't the point in MailNews
<Mnyromyr> there's lots of plans
<Mnyromyr> just too few people actually _realizing_ plans
<Mnyromyr> :-/

<philor> gah. the only thing worse than finding an annoying bit of code is finding that you've got blame for it

* sspitzerMsgMe (sspitzer@moz-C9DA9AA1.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #developers
<cbarrett> sspitzerMsgMe: interesting nick
<asqueella> you have to msg him that

<BenoitRen> Yay! I'm now running SeaMonkey on Haiku!
<wormsxulla> BenoitRen: screenshot
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<therube> what did you have to do to get the download?
<therube> and what is Haiku?
<wormsxulla> +1
<wormsxulla> (since i'm currently downloading the file)
-->| BenoitRen (chatzilla@moz-3B2EBEB2.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #seamonkey
<BenoitRen> I'm back. The kernel panicked.

Notes: Slightly edited, BenoitRen is playing with Haiku OS, http://www.haiku-os.org

Success brings great joy.
SeaMonkey finds a new place.
Then bits all go dark.

<roc> Jesse: just wait, our current timing issues are small potatoes compared to what we'll get into when we start exploiting multicore
* Joshua runs away and cowers in fear
<roc> that's the smart reaction, yes

<c-wheeler> extensions don't really do much in unix, unix uses magic numbers

<philor> Somebody please figure out what I need from Community Giving? I'm starting to feel bad about ignoring Seth's pleas, just because I don't need anything.
<sayrer> make them buy you internet
<gavin_> srlsy
<gavin_> fiber to your house!
<reed> Would satellite be any better than your dial-up?
<philor> "please build me a 100' tower to put a dish on"
<reed> You in a valley?
<philor> yep, that's the "I live in a hole"
<philor> I spend a whole lot of time not watching small jerky video on youtube; I call that a good thing.
<jeremy> philor: dialup?
<philor> yep. the ruralite's burden.
<gavin_> maybe MoCo can buy you a copy of the internet, and ship it to you on DVDs
<gavin_> you have lots of space out there, right?

<dolske> I should start cooking again this year. :/
<shaver> yeah
<shaver> you live in fucking california
<shaver> you have 4 strawberry seasons
<shaver> it's unholy that people don't cook more
<shaver> do you go to the MV farmers' market on sundays?
<dolske> I even have a gas range. :(
<shaver> what the fuck?
<shaver> next time I'm down there we're cooking, young man
<dolske> forgive me father, for I have sinned. It has been 4 years since my last creme brulee.

=-=  CTho has changed the topic to “Welcome to #velocity - speed limits, universal constants, and measurement systems!”

Notes: #seamonkey

<khuey>  LaTeX is awesome
<cvan>  latek you mean
<khuey>  cvan: huh whut?
<cvan>  look up LaTeX on wiki
<cvan>  pronunciation
<khuey>  oh yeah, that's how you pronounce it
<khuey>  but I'm not speaking to you
<reed>  because khuey doesn't speak to the little people
=-=  khuey is now known as khuey_kingoftheinterns
=-=  Mode #interns +o khuey_kingoftheinterns by reed
<reed>  actually, even better
=-=  Mode #interns +q khuey_kingoftheinterns by reed
<reed>  :p
* khuey_kingoftheinterns  uses his newfound powers for evil

Notes: Irrelevant chatter removed

* Lucy has quit (gravel.mozilla.org sand.mozilla.org)
<CTho> http://www.kingmandailyminer.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&subsectionID=1&articleID=16860 yay airline service! yay TSA!
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<jX> I applaud what that woman did.
<Lucy> yeah, the reconnect command is pretty hand

<clouserw> that's looking better.  can we add a zebra class to it also?
<dschafer> yeah, sure
* rdoherty left the chat room. (Quit: rdoherty)
<dschafer> hmm... could do it with jQuery, it looks like
<dschafer> $("tr:nth-child(odd)").addClass("odd");
* rdoherty joined the chat room.
* clouserw wonders if that would be slower than doing it in the template
<rdoherty> yeah, it would
<rdoherty> better to not add styles via js
<clouserw> wtf, did rdoherty just answer that question without even being in the channel?
<clouserw> get out of my head!
<rdoherty> i am omnipresent

<COOLlege> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firebird/releases/0.8/  <- DAMN
<ben> patience ;-)
<COOLlege> w00t ben goodger is talking to me

14:21 -!- dampapa [dampapa@moz-38FC8E7E.event.dreamhack.se] has joined #build
14:26  * dampapa FUCK YOU ALL!
14:26  * dampapa FUCK YOU ALL!
14:26  * dampapa FUCK YOU ALL!
14:26  * dampapa FUCK YOU ALL!
14:26  * dampapa FUCK YOU ALL!
14:26  * dampapa FUCK YOU ALL!
14:26  * dampapa FUCK YOU ALL!
14:26  * dampapa FUCK YOU ALL!
14:26  * dampapa FUCK YOU ALL!
14:26 -!- dampapa [dampapa@moz-38FC8E7E.event.dreamhack.se] has quit [Excess Flood]
14:27 < zach> someone doesn't like having builds I guess
14:27 <@rhelmer> another satisfied customer
14:29 <@preed> who says we're unapproachable.

Notes: Ahh... Mondays, post-project meeting.

* mystic screams
<Mossop> You can borrow my brick wall if you like, to bash your head against
<mystic> Mossop: thank you
<Mossop> Its a bit dented already sorry
* mystic bashes his head against Mossop's brick wall.
* mystic returns the wall - slightly more crimson than before.
<Mossop> It's a red brick wall, noone will notice!

<mcsmurf> hm wo isn Aqualon
<mcsmurf> hm, ok, hat sich auch so erledigt (hab gerade sinnloses Wissen gebraucht, da weiß er ja recht viel ;)

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<dwitte> shaver: happy bday!
<jX> awwww, how old is the birthday boy?
<shaver> jX: 0x20

Notes: Next year, shaver gets to just say !

<Cww> I think I lucked out this time.... this is why I never reboot this computer unless absolutely necessary.
<Cww> except now firefox won't start.
<fork> try it in safe mode
<fork> did it open in safe mode?
<fork> cww try firefox in safe mode
<Cww> I know how to fix Firefox thanks. :P

Notes: Cww is one of our room monitors, or a supervisor, if you will, on Firefox live chat support.

<davida> philor: so, what's the executive summary of your crusade?
<philor> davida: am I on a crusade? cool! do I get a sword, or a lance, or something?
<GS> You get a flask.
<dmose> GS: ROFL
<davida> philor: you get removed files?
* GS thinks the flask was better.

Notes: You can not has ye flask.

<Lucy> overrheard just now at the connors:
<Lucy> Gryphon: The computer is trying to get me gecko 2
<Lucy> Lucy: ahh it's trying to update
<Lucy> Gryphon: I already have gecko 2?
<Lucy> Lucy: you have firefox 2, gecko is the rendering engine
<Lucy> Gryphon: ahh
<Lucy> Gryphon: wait... did you say the surrendering engine?

Notes: Gryphon is almost 9

<Jesse_> i just thought of a new insult
<Jesse_> "You are a waste of an IP address"
<sysKin> lol
<Peng> Heh.
<Peng> Will it be more or less insulting when IPv6 catches on?
<Skeleton> I guess address space is less precious with IPv6
<i386> yes
<i386> but you could be using it for something else
<Skeleton> so you'll have to accuse them of defiling their entire subnet
<i386> hey it works
<i386> --> Logf (~Indy@athedsl-103173.otenet.gr) has joined #UNIX
<i386> <Logf> Hello. I want to become a hacker. Can you help me?
<i386>  loon Logf
<i386> <caelum_> Logf: you are a waste of an IP address
<i386> <caelum_> begone!
<i386> <-- Logf (~Indy@athedsl-103173.otenet.gr) has left #UNIX

<Psih> ňóň đóńńęčĺ ĺńňü??
<Psih> Who is speak Russia? Sorry of my bad Eanglesh
<johnm> English only here
<Psih> fuck
* Parts: Psih
<ancestor> duh, his English really is "bad"

<mconnor> beltzner: we blocked on adding the UI back, but not on making it work?
<beltzner> yes
<shaver> very much disagree

<Simon> i want to cry
<shaver> go ahead
<shaver> we'll be here for you
<Simon> lol
<Simon> dissertation is screwing with my head
<Simon> reach the word count
<Simon> bibliography to write
<Simon> 16 books, 47 journal articles 11 magazines and 4 podcasts
<Simon> in Harvard form
<shaver> nice
<shaver> my wife is a librarian, you can trade citation jokes with her later!
<Simon> i never knew there were such jokes
<dolske> [citation needed]

<poningru> yaleshmale.com
<brosnan> I am so not clicking on that link.
<CTho> dubya's shemale friend from yale?

<firebot> Check-in:
<firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d47a01a87c6c - Daniel Holbert - Bug 458167 - (comments-only changes) Grammar Nazi Vol1: s/it's/its/ for the posessive version of the word, and a few other misc comment-typos, in these directories: accessible browser config profile rdf toolkit tools xpcom xpfe
<Jesse> that is a serious grammar nazi patch
<Jesse> you didn't just see a single typo and fixed it

<orph> sigh, the sucky thing about open source is that people don't tell you when they're ripping off your ideas
<stuart> orph: just do what i do
<stuart> know that all ideas are yours and expect that everyone else is ripping them off
<orph> stuart: what a good idea. i'm glad i thought of it!

<Boriss> the biggest ui expert in the world should probably come off as a total dick

* Waldo triggers his own assertion
<Waldo> and is happy
<jX> triggering your own assertion? Is that what they call it these days?

<sdwilsh> wow
<sdwilsh> gavin has some lag time for ccing
<mwu> it's a new feature to help gavin pass the turing test

<humph> opensource.doc
<Mardeg> proprietary.odf
<cesar> topsecret.bin
<cesar> wait
<cesar> topsecret.txt
<cesar> I get jokes
<Mardeg> :P

<jcranmer> what's oo - oo ?
<Waldo> your mom
<jcranmer> 1, then
<jcranmer> best mom in the world
<jcranmer> much better than yours
<Waldo> just because that's what she said doesn't mean it's true!
<jcranmer> Waldo: no, it's what YOUR mom said
<Waldo> okay, I think I've drawn this out far enough :-D
<jcranmer> that's what SHE said

<anne-mac> i was trying to get away with using just Opera on my Mac but Google is against me
<anne-mac> on my other laptop I'm trying to get away with not having Flash, which works reasonably so far
<Philip`> You should get another one and set the firewall to block port 80, to complete your attempts at disabling significant portions of the web :-)

<laura> you can call him to nag if required :)
<Cww> (by nag, I assume you mean "promise double chocolate brownies")
<laura> yes, of course :)
<laura> that's nagging, Cww style

<CTho> By the 1890s interlocking offensive formations such as the flying wedge and the practice of teammates physically dragging ball-carrying players forward had made the game extremely dangerous. Despite restrictions on the flying wedge and other precautions, in 1905 eighteen players were killed in games. President Theodore Roosevelt informed the universities that the game must be made safer. To force them to respond to his concerns, he threatened to p
<justdave> he threatened to p?
<morgamic> hahaha.
<CTho> To force them to respond to his concerns, he threatened to pressure Congress to make playing football a federal crime.
<morgamic> oh no, teddy, not on the new rug!

Notes: #umo, quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football

<beltzner> http://gmodules.com/ig/creator?synd=open&url=http://mingyeeiu.googlepages.com/ponies.xml
<beltzner> now you can have a pony
<ss|work> LOL
<ss|work> Where's rob_strong when you need him?
<gavin_> haha
<iunknown> beltzner: what does french do there?
<beltzner> iunknown: huh?
<iunknown> beltzner: there's a language field at the bottom of your pony
<iunknown> i can't figure out what selecting french does
<gavin_> Vive la France!
<beltzner> oh, I dunno
<beltzner> makes the pony a bit more of a dick, maybe?

<Hixie> wow, with the amount of time the forms tf has spent discussing when to discuss things, you'd think they could have discussed things by now

<AdaByron> nilson: I know your address now
<nilson> so?
<Tom> you just gave #bs your home address
<AdaByron> I'm going to send you a mail bomb
<nilson> I've given it out many times
<esteban> what a great idea, post your home addy in a public irc channel!
<nilson> I have guns
<esteban> well true
<esteban> you're in alabama

<chofmann> I'm looking at http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox+Help right now and the search box is pre-populated with "use IE"
<chofmann> if we are pre-populating with previous or popular searches then this should be one that we filter out...
<chofmann> looks really bad...
<zzxc> It uses the last thing you searched for
<np> now who looks bad

<poningru> everyone says there are like a gajillion nerdy geeky girls
<poningru> where the fuck are they?
<Lucy_> poningru: AT HOME CUZ NO ONE ASKS US OUT

<bugbot> ispiked@gmail.tld added attachment 257994 to bug 373339
<bugbot> Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=257994&action=edit text/plain, Crash details, crash details.txt
<bugbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373339 major, --, ---, mscott@mozilla.tld, UNCONFIRMED, crash when closing account wizard
<remorabot> bugbot: Bug http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373339 maj, --, ---, mscott@mozilla.tld, UNCO, crash when closing account wizard
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=http%3A//bugzilla was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=mozilla was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=org/show_bug was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=cgi was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=id%3D373339 was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=maj was not found.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=http%3A//bugzilla was not found' might be.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=-- was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=--- was not found.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=mozilla was not found' might be.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=mscott%40mozilla was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=org was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=UNCO was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=crash was not found.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=org/show_bug was not found' might be.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=when was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=closing was not found.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=cgi was not found' might be.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=account was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=wizard was not found.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=id%3D373339 was not found' might be.
<bugbot> Bug 373339: major, --, ---, mscott@mozilla.tld, UNCONFIRMED, crash when closing account wizard
<bugbot> remorabot: Error: "Sorry," is not a valid command.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=maj was not found' might be.
<bugbot> Bug http: was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: Error: "Sorry," is not a valid command.
<bugbot> Bug mozilla: was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: Error: "Sorry," is not a valid command.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=-- was not found' might be.
<bugbot> Bug org: was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: Error: "Sorry," is not a valid command.
<bugbot> Bug cgi: was not found.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=--- was not found' might be.
<bugbot> remorabot: Error: "Sorry," is not a valid command.
<bugbot> Bug id: was not found.
<bugbot> remorabot: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
<bugbot> Bug maj: was not found.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=mscott%40mozilla was not found' might be.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=org was not found' might be.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=UNCO was not found' might be.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=crash was not found' might be.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=when was not found' might be.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=closing was not found' might be.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=account was not found' might be.
<remorabot> bugbot: ok
<remorabot> bugbot: Yep, that's what I thought. Thanks for confirming it.
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=wizard was not found' might be.
<remorabot> bugbot: Yep, that's what I thought. Thanks for confirming it.
<remorabot> bugbot: Yep, that's what I thought. Thanks for confirming it.
* remorabot was going to say 'bugbot: Yep, that's what I thought. Thanks for confirming it.' but has said it too many times today already
<remorabot> bugbot: Sorry, I've no idea what 'You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes' might be.

Notes: e-mail address TLDs changed to "tld" for protection

<Lucy> inst4ll a different irc then come b4ck
<Lucy> carp!!
<Azstal> Lucy! nooo

Notes: A guy in #firefox support channel is infected by a script that /ignores everyone who says anything with the letter "a" in it.

<reed> gavin: it's funny to see who follows the "firstletterlastname" account name policy [for @mozilla.com]
<sayrer> I got yelled at for not having a "sayrer" alias
<philor> alias? I thought your last name was ayrer?
<gavin> sayrer: you need ayrers@ and ersayr@ aliases